Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners [62]
yet there is very few that can, in the Spirit, say the two first words in that prayer; that is, that can call God their Father, as knowing what it is to be born again, and as having experience, that they are begotten of the Spirit of God: which if they do not, all is but babbling, etc.
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said that that was a truth.
BUN. And I say further, as to your saying that one man may convince another of sin, and that faith comes by hearing, and that one man may tell another how he should pray, etc., I say men may tell each other of their sins, but it is the Spirit that must convince them.
And though it be said that FAITH COMES BY HEARING: yet it is the Spirit that worketh faith in the heart through hearing, or else THEY ARE NOT PROFITED BY HEARING. Heb. iv. 12.
And that though one man may tell another how he should pray: yet, as I said before, he cannot pray, nor make his condition known to God, except the Spirit help. It is not the Common Prayer-Book that can do this. It is the SPIRIT THAT SHOWETH US OUR SINS, and the SPIRIT THAT SHOWETH US A SAVIOUR, Jn. xvi. 16, and the Spirit that stirreth up in our hearts desires to come to God, for such things as we stand in need of, Matt. xi. 27, even sighing out our souls unto Him for them with GROANS WHICH CANNOT BE UTTERED. With other words to the same purpose. At this they were set.
KEEL. But says Justice KEELIN, What have you against the Common Prayer-Book?
BUN. I said, Sir, if you will hear me, I shall lay down my reasons against it.
KEEL. He said I should have liberty; but first, said he, let me give you one caution; take heed of speaking irreverently of the Common Prayer-Book; for if you do so, you will bring great damage upon yourself.
BUN. So I proceeded, and said, My first reason was, because it was not commanded in the Word of God, and therefore I could not use it.
ANOTHER. One of them said, Where do you find it commanded in the Scripture, that you should go to ELSTOW, or BEDFORD, and yet it is lawful to go to either of them, is it not?
BUN. I said, To go to ELSTOW, or BEDFORD, was a civil thing, and not material, though not commanded, and yet God's Word allowed me to go about my calling, and therefore if it lay there, then to go thither, etc. But to pray, was a great part of the Divine worship of God, and therefore it ought to be done according to the rule of God's Word.
ANOTHER. One of them said, He will do harm; let him speak no further.
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said, No, no, never fear him, we are better established than so; he can do no harm; we know the Common Prayer- Book hath been ever since the apostles' time, and it is lawful for it to be used in the church.
BUN. I said, Show me the place in the epistles, where the Common Prayer-Book is written, or one text of Scripture, that commands me to read it, and I will use it. But yet, notwithstanding, said I, they that have a mind to use it, they have their liberty; that is, I would not keep them from it; but for our parts, we can pray to God without it. Blessed be His name!
With that, one of them said, Who is your God? Beelzebub? Moreover, they often said, that I was possessed with the spirit of delusion, and of the devil. All which sayings I passed over; the Lord forgive them! And further, I said, Blessed be the Lord for it; we are encouraged to meet together, and to pray, and exhort one another; for, we have had the comfortable presence of God among us. For ever blessed be His holy name!
KEEL. Justice KEELIN called this pedler's French, saying, that I must leave off my canting. The Lord open his eyes!
BUN. I said that we ought to exhort one another daily, while it is called to-day, etc.
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said that I ought not to preach; and asked me where I had my authority? with other such like words.
BUN. I said that I would prove that it was lawful for me, and such as I am, to preach the Word of God.
KEEL. He said unto me, By what Scripture?
BUN. I said, By that
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said that that was a truth.
BUN. And I say further, as to your saying that one man may convince another of sin, and that faith comes by hearing, and that one man may tell another how he should pray, etc., I say men may tell each other of their sins, but it is the Spirit that must convince them.
And though it be said that FAITH COMES BY HEARING: yet it is the Spirit that worketh faith in the heart through hearing, or else THEY ARE NOT PROFITED BY HEARING. Heb. iv. 12.
And that though one man may tell another how he should pray: yet, as I said before, he cannot pray, nor make his condition known to God, except the Spirit help. It is not the Common Prayer-Book that can do this. It is the SPIRIT THAT SHOWETH US OUR SINS, and the SPIRIT THAT SHOWETH US A SAVIOUR, Jn. xvi. 16, and the Spirit that stirreth up in our hearts desires to come to God, for such things as we stand in need of, Matt. xi. 27, even sighing out our souls unto Him for them with GROANS WHICH CANNOT BE UTTERED. With other words to the same purpose. At this they were set.
KEEL. But says Justice KEELIN, What have you against the Common Prayer-Book?
BUN. I said, Sir, if you will hear me, I shall lay down my reasons against it.
KEEL. He said I should have liberty; but first, said he, let me give you one caution; take heed of speaking irreverently of the Common Prayer-Book; for if you do so, you will bring great damage upon yourself.
BUN. So I proceeded, and said, My first reason was, because it was not commanded in the Word of God, and therefore I could not use it.
ANOTHER. One of them said, Where do you find it commanded in the Scripture, that you should go to ELSTOW, or BEDFORD, and yet it is lawful to go to either of them, is it not?
BUN. I said, To go to ELSTOW, or BEDFORD, was a civil thing, and not material, though not commanded, and yet God's Word allowed me to go about my calling, and therefore if it lay there, then to go thither, etc. But to pray, was a great part of the Divine worship of God, and therefore it ought to be done according to the rule of God's Word.
ANOTHER. One of them said, He will do harm; let him speak no further.
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said, No, no, never fear him, we are better established than so; he can do no harm; we know the Common Prayer- Book hath been ever since the apostles' time, and it is lawful for it to be used in the church.
BUN. I said, Show me the place in the epistles, where the Common Prayer-Book is written, or one text of Scripture, that commands me to read it, and I will use it. But yet, notwithstanding, said I, they that have a mind to use it, they have their liberty; that is, I would not keep them from it; but for our parts, we can pray to God without it. Blessed be His name!
With that, one of them said, Who is your God? Beelzebub? Moreover, they often said, that I was possessed with the spirit of delusion, and of the devil. All which sayings I passed over; the Lord forgive them! And further, I said, Blessed be the Lord for it; we are encouraged to meet together, and to pray, and exhort one another; for, we have had the comfortable presence of God among us. For ever blessed be His holy name!
KEEL. Justice KEELIN called this pedler's French, saying, that I must leave off my canting. The Lord open his eyes!
BUN. I said that we ought to exhort one another daily, while it is called to-day, etc.
KEEL. Justice KEELIN said that I ought not to preach; and asked me where I had my authority? with other such like words.
BUN. I said that I would prove that it was lawful for me, and such as I am, to preach the Word of God.
KEEL. He said unto me, By what Scripture?
BUN. I said, By that