Live From New York - James H. Miller [28]
BARBARA GALLAGHER:
Lorne said to me, “We have to cut Billy,” after dress rehearsal. “Why don’t you go tell Buddy?” I said, “Me? Me tell Buddy? What’re you, crazy?” He said, “Yeah, you’ve got to tell him.” Lorne didn’t like confrontation. He hated it. So I went and told Buddy. I said, “I think it’s a mistake, I know Lorne feels terrible that he has to do this.” I said, “Buddy, don’t kill the messenger. I love Billy.”
LORNE MICHAELS:
Buddy was a strong advocate for Billy, and I think what I objected to was him telling me what I should cut as opposed to just making the pro-Billy case. He made the who-was-funnier case, which was not a good thing to do. He said I should cut Andy Kaufman.
I probably didn’t have the nerve to cut Carlin. One, he was our host, and two, he’d lent his name to the show, which was, at the time, a big deal. I think Andy, because he was surreal and there was nothing else like him on the show, had the edge. Albert had submitted his first film, which was thirteen minutes long. Fortunately he also submitted his second one, which was a lot shorter, and that was the one we ran.
I thought Billy was really funny, or else I wouldn’t have put him on the show. But I also thought that he was the one thing we could hold, the one thing we had the most of — stand-up comedy, because of Carlin. Buddy turned everything into high drama. It became very heated.
BUDDY MORRA:
We took him off the show Saturday because they weren’t living up to what we had agreed to. Jack Rollins and I decided if we couldn’t get what we were promised early on, we would take Billy off the show. Earlier in the week, I had said just that to Barbara Gallagher, who was the associate producer. The piece was supposed to run about six minutes or five and a half minutes, and it just wouldn’t work in any less time. You could shave a few seconds off, but that would be about it.
LORNE MICHAELS:
Buddy had no idea what was going on. I don’t think Bernie did either. They were from another time of show business. We were eating vegetables; they were eating doughnuts. It was a different world. We were much more like a crusade. It was a very passionate group of people. Billy was sort of one of us — but now suddenly it went into this other kind of mode.
The talk with Buddy was of another time. And it made Billy not one of us. And I think that was unfortunate for all of us, because he had been.
BILLY CRYSTAL:
I was waiting in the lobby with Gilda for the dress rehearsal to take place at eight o’clock while my managers talked to Lorne. We had asked for five minutes in the first hour which, given what we had been through with Lorne in the preparations, didn’t seem like an outlandish request. About seven o’clock, my manager, Buddy Morra, and Jack Rollins come out and suddenly said, “Okay, we’re going, that’s it.” I said, “What happened?” They said, “Lorne went, ‘I can’t do it, I can’t do it, I can’t do it. I can’t promise anything.’” So Buddy said, “We’re going to go, there’s no time, you’re being bumped, and that’s it.” I had my makeup on! Gilda got all upset and angry. I was totally confused about the whole thing.
BUDDY MORRA:
It comes down to a matter of what they thought was most important. I know how bad Billy felt for a long time. I’m talking about several years after that. It still always bothered him. And it bothered me too. We walked out of NBC that night, and I can tell you my stomach was not in great shape, and it wasn’t for several days after that. It wasn’t an easy thing to do, but we felt it was the right thing to do.
BILLY CRYSTAL: